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  • thedudeabides117

    Gotta be a member to log in?  

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  • arcsupply

    Oh, Sorry,

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  • tu

    1st - is it authentic? I've always wondered how many people shit talking Benchmade are holding a counterfeit. 40 to 50 firings sounds like the lifespan of a fake

    2nd - he should have researched the knife better, oblivious that it is a chisel grind

    3rd - one shit talker claims the mini Infidel is not an auto, an OTF is clearly shown in OP's photo

    Then they jump on the ones who say they own several without issues.

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  • markg

    When it comes to  a herd there are some realities that must be noted.

    Dismissing something popular (movie, sports team, et al) gives a person a sense of importance, sophistication, and makes them feel elite. You see this in everything. I am too good for what everyone loves. They find fault in popular things giving themselves an appearance of a free thinker and above the common man.

    Negative comments carry more weight than positive ones. If I told you 3 things I love about you and 3 things I hate about you, guess which ones you will hear and obsess about? The negative ones. Negative experiences are going to also be voiced more often, and by a large margin. Benchmade could make a 1000 knives, and 997 could be perfect and 3 could have issues. The people who have the 3 issues will post about it on Facebook, the 997 will not. And since we give more weight to negative comments, people will see the three comments and say "From comments I have read, Benchmade's QC has really been slipping..."

    The most vocal naysayers will have the least experience. Some dude who has owned two Benchmades made in the last 3 years and will say "Yea things have really gone down hill..." Really? Have you been buying Benchmade Knives for 25 years? Have you actually handled a Benchmade made 20 years ago to actually make the comment? Or are you parroting negative comments you have heard? I got my first Benchmade knife in 1996, and have owned hundreds (if maybe not a thousand)  Benchmade knives... Their QC has not slipped. In all those knives I have owned there was one lemon (here's looking at you Benchmade 670 Apparition). I have never had a warranty issue, and have never sent a knife back for service. I have other brands.

    Knife enthusiasts have a nauseating case of OCD. They inspect blade centering with a calipers and blade grinds with a microscope. Why? I could give a rat's behind about centering, does it rub the liner when I open it? Nope... Then we are good. Does the blade cut and is it sharp (and by the way Benchmade's of the 90's were notorious for butter knife sharpness, but I only know that because, you know I had ACTUAL experience with them). Let's talk about stupid stuff knife guys "want..." Does it drop shut? Who cares. Oh and this one... What sound does it make when you flip it open... That one makes me want to stick a 1999 Stryker in my eye. I don't care about these things because I am a person who can order a coffee in less than 3 words and don't have a man bun. I am sure I hurt some feelings with this paragraph, and that is what your EDC hankie is for...

    As for the original poster from Bladeforums...

    First off, I have owned more OTF's than I want to admit. You get some that don't work. I have a Microtech right now that needs to be sent in, it is a mess (and for the record I love Microtech and have an overall positive experience). There is a lot you can do to make an OTF not work. Who knows maybe it was your lucky day and it sucked lint into it the first day. For the record I have have had 5 Infidels made over 15 year period of time and all worked flawlessly.

    Second, it sounds like the guy opened and closed his knife "40-50 times" in a few days. Which probably means he opened and closed it 300 times. GET A FREAKING FIDGET SPINNER!!! That's like buying a new handgun and dry firing it 3000 times in a week. Should the knife be able to do this? Sure, but really...

    His knife is dull on one side. So we are going to all take some random dude's subjective opinion of sharpness as truth? By all means let's round up all the Benchmade's and burn them in a fire because they are crap... This guy has a dull knife!!!

    In closing, haters going to hate...

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  • arcsupply

    Sorry markg, I saw this over there but didn't think you will spend so much time on this.

    It is kind of interesting to see some "-" comment once in a while.

    My bad

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  • markg
    [@mention:589599268366326498] posted:

    Sorry markg, I saw this over there but didn't think you will spend so much time on this.

    It is kind of interesting to see some "-" comment once in a while.

    My bad

    I make a living writing and speaking...

    I enjoy it and I type fast. That was like 7 minutes of my day.

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  • thedudeabides117

    My rule of thumb with internet feedback is to, first, look at the totality of reviews about a product.  If almost all are positive and one or two aren't, then I figure the negative ones for outliers or complainers.  Sometimes a product slips through quality control, but often it's just someone writing three paragraphs about how bad something is.  When I (rarely) write a bad review, I keep it to a sentence or two and am very specific about what I perceive to be the issue.   And I never slag an entire company or product line based on my single experience.

    Especially on Amazon, I look at their other posts to get a feeling re what they say and how they say it.  Often they nitpick everything they review.  When I see someone go on and on about how bad something is, often it reads like they are venting.  Venting=take what they say with a big grain of salt.

    When I first bought a few Kershaw's (before that it was Case, Buck and Victorinox), I went by reviews but also wasn't too worried, as they go for $30-50, and I could experiment.  I then looked at Zero Tolerance knife reviews on a variety of sites, including the one linked to above.  Most of the talk there was comparisons of Zero Tolerance and Benchmade and Spyderco, all at the same approximate price point   Many/most suggested that ZT knives were overbuilt and Benchmades had quality control. issues  A lot liked Spyderco.

    I tried a couple for ZT's and they were super strong.  However, they didn't work well for left-handers.  Reading more reviews, I saw that Benchmades were built for ambidextrous use.  I've bought five so far and all except the newest one were perfect on arrival.    And they fixed my newest one in two weeks.  

    I. can't speak to the complainer's issues as I have not seen them with my knives.  I CAN say that my experience with Benchmade has been very positive.  

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  • tu
    [@mention:589599268365931705] posted:

    I am sure I hurt some feelings with this paragraph, and that is what your EDC hankie is for...

    Great post Mark!!

    I picked up a hankie after covid started, specifically to offer to others who sneeze near me. "Gesundheit, would you like to use my handkerchief?" You should see the looks i get, great fun!! Haven't had one person accept my generous offer

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  • riverrun

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Even wrong ones.

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  • ekwan

    OMG… I hope there’s not a forum for EDC hankies

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  • billhammer
    [@mention:589599268365929094] posted:

    OMG… I hope there’s not a forum for EDC hankies

    /|\ Actually covered as part of a thread labeled “Pocket Dump” on USN Forum.

    I must confess I’m like a guy slowing down on the highway passing an accident. I can’t believe all the crap some guys carry in their pockets!👀

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