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Bugout 535-3 First Impressions

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  • brendan

    Thanks Tim !


    I'm really looking forward to adding this one (or a few of these

    ) to my bugout collection.
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  • billhammer

    /|\ Nice write up Tim.

    As to strains running in different directions, that make sense. I’m sure the fabric is laid down in different directions before the solvent is applied to make it stronger

    I’d like to do a comparison test against a 940-1. I’m predisposed to the 940-1 ( thicker (strength) longer blade (little more cutting edge) & lastly for me the handle on all 94X’s is most comfortable. The 535-3 with thinner blade likely slices better. The 535-3 looks great but for me I just don’t see it knocking the 940-1 out of my pocket as cost of each favors neither. Lot to love about the regular 535 for $119.

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  • dj

    Dam you and your write up ............. now I want one ....lol

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  • bigoldboy

    Dj  when you get tired of let me know I’ll buy it from you.

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  • sean64

    Thank you for the write up Tim. I handled the Bugout before I purchased a mini-bugout 533bk which i am very happy with.  The reason I went with the mini was because in my hand the regular seemed to be a bit blade heavy or balanced forward. How do you find the 535-3 in this regard? Thank you and again that is one beautiful knife.

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  • dj

    I finally broke down and bought one ............ not here as of yet though

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  • billhammer
    [@mention:663495676880073806] posted:

    Thank you for the write up Tim. I handled the Bugout before I purchased a mini-bugout 533bk which i am very happy with.  The reason I went with the mini was because in my hand the regular seemed to be a bit blade heavy or balanced forward. How do you find the 535-3 in this regard? Thank you and again that is one beautiful knife.

    /|\  I’m sure the 535-3 is better balanced (handle to blade) not only is the CF heavier then plastic but the 535-3 also has the Al backspacer. I too wait for Tim report in on this.

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  • Tim O
    [@mention:589599268366008688] posted:

    I finally broke down and bought one ............ not here as of yet though

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  • Tim O
    [@mention:663495676880073806] posted:

    Thank you for the write up Tim. I handled the Bugout before I purchased a mini-bugout 533bk which i am very happy with.  The reason I went with the mini was because in my hand the regular seemed to be a bit blade heavy or balanced forward. How do you find the 535-3 in this regard? Thank you and again that is one beautiful knife.

    [@mention:589599268366227375] posted:

    /|\  I’m sure the 535-3 is better balanced (handle to blade) not only is the CF heavier then plastic but the 535-3 also has the Al backspacer. I too wait for Tim report in on this.

    Bill you hit the nail on the head. Most of the 535-3 2.02oz weight difference feels like it is in the handle to me. Compared to the 535's 1.85oz. weight I have to say that the 535-3 is better balanced handle to blade. Some of that with the extra weight added by the AL backspacer over barrel spacers.

    As Sean mentioned the 533 I looked at the Mini Bugout 533BK-1's Grivory and 533BK-2 CF-Elite scales, the fact that they both weigh 1.5oz I lean toward it being more blade heavy compared to the 535-3. Remember that the hardware between 535 and 533 is all the same. Granted at 1.5oz the 533 is a bit hard to notice that with large hands. I did break them out, compared them and could just barely determine the 533's to be a bit more nose heavy.

    Glad you guys enjoyed the write up!

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  • Mike G

    i have an earlier production (not a first production) and a more recent one.  Noticed the blue spacer on the earlier one is much lighter and the swedge on the top of the blade is shorter and less pronounced.  Just found that interesting, perhaps they made a few adjustment/improvements I guess.  I do like that the backspacer is closer matched to the thumb studs now whereas before they were not.  Or maybe my earlier one was just off a bit.  Either way, that's been my beater knife and it's held up great.  Got the second one as more of a keeper.

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  • Tim O

    Mike did you buy the second one from an authorized dealer? The reason I mention this is that there should be no difference between the two blades. As well the 535-3 is being counterfeited in large numbers these days

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  • Mike G
    [@mention:589880809437764246] posted:

    Mike did you buy the second one from an authorized dealer? The reason I mention this is that there should be no difference between the two blades. As well the 535-3 is being counterfeited in large numbers these days

    Hi Tim, the first was purchased from Smoky Mountain Knife Works. The second from Blade HQ.  Both are authorized dealers I believe.  

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  • Mike G

    Here are pics

    I'm replacing the pivot screw on the one since I accidently almost stripped it trying to center the blade which was pretty bad when I got it. 

    In any case, you can see that the older one is a shade lighter on the backspacer and possibly also see the difference in the size of the swedge on the edge of the blade. 



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  • Tim O

    The one that I did the FI here on had a noticably lighter back spacer although from the pictures I took it's hard to tell. Now I'm to have to dig the 3 I have out of the safe and look at the swedges. Considering how long the 535 has been in production I would have to say it's extremely odd that there would be a change in the blade.

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  • wearetheromans

    I have noticed the top swedge on many different models having slight variance from batch to batch. For example, 551’s, 710’s and 730’s have had very noticeable differences in their swedge from model to like model. I frequently pass on a good deal on a model I’m looking for because I’m picky AH, and always looking for the best looking blade.



    This isn’t unique to BKC, either. A keen eye can catch these subtle grind differences from ZT, Sypderco, etc.

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  • wearetheromans

    Ps, as far as the blue (and other colors) Ano’ goes, these vary a LOT in my experience. For example, I had to request new thumb studies for a 551-191 because the two blues studs were VERY different colors on the same knife.

    i suspect this is why BKC is moving towards the PVD option. Seems to be more uniform and consistent.

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  • Mike G

    On one, I'm thinking about replacing the thumbstuds and backspacer with the copper flytanium ones.  Has anyone tried this or confirm that the flytanium backspacer will fit on this particular model?  Be nice to distinguish it from the other I have and at least in my head I think the copper will be a nice touch.

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  • billhammer
    [@mention:646324604467407966] posted:

    On one, I'm thinking about replacing the thumbstuds and backspacer with the copper flytanium ones.  Has anyone tried this or confirm that the flytanium backspacer will fit on this particular model?  Be nice to distinguish it from the other I have and at least in my head I think the copper will be a nice touch.

    /|\ Believe Jadon & others have said the 535-3 has different offsets then normal 535.

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  • tu
    [@mention:646324604467407966] posted:

    On one, I'm thinking about replacing the thumbstuds and backspacer with the copper flytanium ones.  Has anyone tried this or confirm that the flytanium backspacer will fit on this particular model?  Be nice to distinguish it from the other I have and at least in my head I think the copper will be a nice touch.

    I got a backspacer from Rockscale Design that fit. You can contact them & check if anything is compatible

    https://rockscaledesign.com/

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  • Tim O

    MikeG the Flytanium backspacer should work on the 535-3.

    Flytanium usually states that they will fit only given models if there is a difference. The 535-3 has round holes for the back spacers. The Flytanium and the Rockscale Design back spacers both have flats ground on two sides of the screw holes to allow multi model use. In this case I think you'd be good to go as the Flytanium ad doesn't state that they will not work.

    Let us know what you decide and how you fair!

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  • Mike G
    [@mention:589880809437764246] posted:

    MikeG the Flytanium backspacer should work on the 535-3.

    Flytanium usually states that they will fit only given models if there is a difference. The 535-3 has round holes for the back spacers. The Flytanium and the Rockscale Design back spacers both have flats ground on two sides of the screw holes to allow multi model use. In this case I think you'd be good to go as the Flytanium ad doesn't state that they will not work.

    Let us know what you decide and how you fair!

    thank you, I'll give it a shot and post the results either way.  appreciate the feedback.

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  • tu
    [@mention:646324604467407966] posted:

    thank you, I'll give it a shot and post the results either way.  appreciate the feedback.

    Paying the Butterfly tax for a great made in USA knife is something we are all familiar with. I mentioned Rockscale because it will keep your knife made in USA. Adding a Flytanium made in China part, you lose the Made in USA knife

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  • Mike G

    Unfortunately they don’t made copper or brass backspaces or thumb studs

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  • tu

    Have you tried Bladeswelove

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  • Mike G

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    Received the flytanium copper backspacer. It does appear to work.  Just waiting on the thumb studs now.
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  • Tim O

    Looks pretty good!

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  • Mike G

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    Thumb studs came today so now it’s complete. I kinda like it.
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