Understanding First Production Runs

Moving Up

• November 10, 2019 17:19

Need a little understanding.  BM released the 3400 Autocrat.  The first one that I found was the 3400BK.  i got a good number of this release.  I looked at several places and finally found a 3400.  It was not a first production run.  The questions is when BM releases a new product does it make the first run in both variations and number them or do they just make one run of a piratical type and only number them.  I would like to have a plain 3400 First Run to match my 3400BK but just not sure they will make one.  Little Understanding Please.

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  mobilefirelord

  • November 10, 2019 17:32

  My understanding is that First production run is exactly that. BKC produces in economical batch counts in manufacturing run.
  
  Personally from Software industry mind, I prefer after first production. To me, it sounds like beta testing.
  
  Also the First production run is done with plane edge to have laser inscription.  This way, BKC can track long term MTBF upon return / Life sharp. (Mean time between failure) for whatever happens to a knife over the ages.
  
  I'm sure Jason can answer this more accurately.

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  Moving Up

  • November 10, 2019 19:23

  Thanks for the reply.  So we should see all First Productions in the 3400BK and nothing in the 3400?

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  billhammer

  • November 10, 2019 20:34

  /|\ Like MFL, I prefer not to buy First Production knives in case a weakness is found & small improvement made.

  Once in a while ( see  Victor) blade changed because cost of manufacturing the first production type blade is too costly. So a first production like that would be highly sort after.

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  mrnobody

  • November 11, 2019 01:46

  from what i understand they usually will do a first production run of all versions of a new knife. how fast they’re bought by distributors determines when the unmarked regular production run hits the streets. 

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  arcsupply

  • November 11, 2019 02:23

  billhammer posted:

  /|\ Like MFL, I prefer not to buy First Production knives in case a weakness is found & small improvement made.

  Once in a while ( see  Victor) blade changed because cost of manufacturing the first production type blade is too costly. So a first production like that would be highly sort after.

  Just like the 87?

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  bmkjason

  • November 11, 2019 16:55

  mobilefirelord posted:

  My understanding is that First production run is exactly that. BKC produces in economical batch counts in manufacturing run.
  
  Personally from Software industry mind, I prefer after first production. To me, it sounds like beta testing.
  
  Also the First production run is done with plane edge to have laser inscription.  This way, BKC can track long term MTBF upon return / Life sharp. (Mean time between failure) for whatever happens to a knife over the ages.
  
  I'm sure Jason can answer this more accurately.

  It's not really like beta testing.. we do that BEFORE the 1st Production run.

  That being said, we only choose one SKU per family to number in virtually all cases, although there have been rare exceptions. It aligns to whichever SKU we intend to send to dealers who are part of the Leading Edge program.

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  Tim O

  • November 11, 2019 17:13

  Jason, Thanks for clarifying this! 

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  Moving Up

  • November 11, 2019 21:14

  Thanks for the information.  with what i know now i should only find FPR on the 3400BK and not on the 3400?  that was the original question.

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  bmkjason

  • November 12, 2019 22:24

  Moving Up posted:

  Thanks for the information.  with what i know now i should only find FPR on the 3400BK and not on the 3400?  that was the original question.

  You are correct.

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