Bedlam 860.
I'm thinking of getting one and would like some opinions on it.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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It's a badass blade 
I dunno if you guys have seen Jurassic Park.. the blade has always reminded me of the velociraptor claw lol.. Very intimidating, and the handle fits in the hand pretty nice too! I have the auto0 -
archer, I liked the one I had, but sold it. It's just not a blade design I found myself needing.
The handle feels great, but it's a bit thick and has a very long length handle. It'll reach most the way to the bottom of your front pocket much like the 610 and 741.
Like all Benchmade stuff, it's well made and all, but it just didn't do much for me. Also, the deep carry clip is like that on the 610/615 which is most people's only complaints with those models.
Beware, it's discontinued and they're starting to dry up from retail sources. (I believe they kept the 8600 automatic version and that's it)0 -
I liked my 8600 as a SD knife. I wouldn't recommend it for utility. 0 -
I have had a couple of them. They are real crazy looking and a good conversation piece, but not a knife I would ever carry. The handle, like Carson said, is very long. 0 -
If you want a big crazy looking knife, it's perfect, but it's probably the most unpractical knife I own.
The blade design is very odd for actual use, and it's a lot bigger than anything most people would want to carry... although it does carry a lot better than you would expect for that big of a knife, I think it actually fits in my pocket better than something like an 806.
It is a good conversation piece though.0 -
Yeah, I've been eyeballing the Bedlam myself. Just waiting for the right deal to come along at the right time.
Last time I was down in Tx, I had an opportunity to check out an auto Bedlam. Man, the action on that thing was unreal, kicked like a mule.0 -
I have the Black, serrated blade version. I love the look and feel of this knife. It is not something that i would ever carry, but the instant i saw it i knew i had to have one. I have had a few non-knife friends ask if i would sell it. I have a feeling they don't realize the quality of the knife and probably think it is just a prop knife that is cheap and looks cool. They flip when i tell them how much it cost. LOL
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I bought a serrated non-auto version of the Bedlam like two years ago. The price was great and I went for it. Although it is not my overall favorite knife, it is my absolute favorite as far as quality is concerned. The lockup of this Black class Axis is incredible, the feel and heft of the handle -- also. Super high quality and some real thought put in the design. What creates some discomfort is the more protruding edge of second finger groove. Had it been made the same size as the first (the one closest to the pivot screw) it would be perfect. Don't know, maybe that's just my hand...
I generally prefer drop points, but there's somethig primal in this design. The skull-crusher is also great, adding weight and stability to the construction. Overall one of the toughest tactical Benchmades along with the Contego, Rukus and Adamas.
PP. Forgot to mention: the texturing of the handle provides a superb grip. I like it very much as well as the thickness of the G-10 slabs. Wish Benchmade puts more handles of this sort on their folders. Whcih they actually did on the new Volli. Thich G-10 slabs and knurling is the way to go.0 -
Great comments and feedback there Renaissance Man.
And welcome to the site0 -
quote:Originally posted by Lightning:
Great comments and feedback there Renaissance Man.
And welcome to the site
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Thanks everybody for the feedback.
I'm convnced I want one, check out WTB section, I have a post.0 -
Lightning, thanks! Happy to be here.
archer, let me know if you want the 860 for the looks/collectibility, or you need it as a self-defense knife. In the latter case, I might have some thoughts to share regarding your choice.
My overall favorite folder is the 710. I mean favorite in the sense of tactical folder. You wonder why? It can be opened by flicking of the wrist and held in reverse grip with the edge in. That is related to a particular fighting style. The 710's handle is neutral and allows for many grip options. As to the manual Bedlam (I do not carry autos), it is also perfect in reverse grip, and can be opened in the mentioned way, but you can only work with it edge-out. A plus, however, is that you can sharpen the upper edge to 70-60 degrees, which generally would not cut your hand but in a fight could be beneficial. If you have some skill and training, a double edged knife can do some real damage (and I believe this is whay BM almost sharpened the false edge). But, generally, I am reluctant to sharpen a folder's false edge and do not recommend it, unless you really know what you do and how you will use the knife. That's why my regular carry is the 710: I can simply orient it with the edge in. Plus it is a beautiful, slim, unobtrusive, gentlemenly looking knife. What could be more tactical than that?0 -
Thanks for the info and insight RM and welcome to the forum.
The reason I want a Bedlam is because well...why not, its a BM and at some point might, if not already will become discontinued and then yoy will see the demand for the knife will skyrocket or at least go up a bit.
I am a bit of a collector as much as a user and some of my knives don't get to see little daylight but I take pleasure in knowing they are in my possesion.
As for knife fighting, not me, I'm a lover not a fighter.
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Archer, thank you! Well, then, the matter seems setlled. Go get it, it is a incredibly well made knife. Still, it would help if you know what it can be used for and what the ideas behind its design were. By the way, do you know the story behind Bedlam's production?
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I heard something but don't know it's credability, it's probably something a lot less dramatic like one of the knife designers at BM trying out an unconventional design. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by something:
If you want a big crazy looking knife, it's perfect, but it's probably the most unpractical knife I own.
It is a good conversation piece though.
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Always a "holy crap" knife when pulled out with friends lol0 -
quote:Originally posted by Renaissance Man:
My overall favorite folder is the 710. I mean favorite in the sense of tactical folder. You wonder why? It can be opened by flicking of the wrist and held in reverse grip with the edge in. That is related to a particular fighting style. The 710's handle is neutral and allows for many grip options.
Often overlooked, the 710 has it all, perfect all-around blade.. When I go hunting, I have one clipped to my pocket and a fixed..0 -
quote:Originally posted by archer:
I heard something but don't know it's credability, it's probably something a lot less dramatic like one of the knife designers at BM trying out an unconventional design.
I read in a knife magazine that a run of these were ordered for the security guards of a Sheikh. Then BM decided to introduce the folder to the larger public. That's what I remember in brief.
As to the knife being a great conversation piece, that might be so, but I don't agree that it's downright unpractical. The blade penetrates quite decently, can catch and control a limb in reverse grip and emulates a classical combat design. Although it might seem foreign to the Western culture, that doesn't mean it's usless. A simple test can settle that.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Renaissance Man:
but I don't agree that it's downright unpractical. The blade penetrates quite decently, can catch and control a limb in reverse grip and emulates a classical combat design. Although it might seem foreign to the Western culture, that doesn't mean it's usless. A simple test can settle that.
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This knife can be very practical, and "very" dangerous in the right hands0 -
I have had 2 860's. Sold both. It is a nice knife and well made, I just don't seem to like the Persian styled knife in a folder. Have had examples from Emerson, Spyderco, and Benchmade,and I just don't seem to hold onto them. The only exception is the new version of the Cold Steel Talwar, which I like. However it has a pretty straight blade for a Persian styled knife.
As for the Bedlam, lots of handle for the blade, and pretty big. If you can get the PE satin finish, it looks the best.0
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