Blade steels
Alright, we know what we want to play with but we want to hear from you.
What steels (or even non-ferrous metals) would you like to see us play with? Why? What is it about that material that you're interested in for use in a knife?
Pete's itching to start testing some new materials in the Laboratory; so let's hear it!
What steels (or even non-ferrous metals) would you like to see us play with? Why? What is it about that material that you're interested in for use in a knife?
Pete's itching to start testing some new materials in the Laboratory; so let's hear it!
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quote:Originally posted by bchan77:
While we are at it, Vance, perhaps you can confirm/clarify (if you are allowed to do so) whether the rumor that BM are having warping issues with M390 is true or not, and whether BM are dropping this steel for good. Thanks.
There's always a bit of learning curve when processing new or exotic materials. If it was easy, everyone would do it.
We've nailed down our processes for M390 and have no plans to drop it. It's a great knife steel.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Geocyclist:
M4 in the custom Grip shop. With black cerakote and/or other coating options. I think M4 would out sell S30V and D2 as the high end steel.
This is a great idea! S90V would also be great steel to see BM using! I also think people would love an M4 G10 option in The custom Grip shop0 -
My take on this would be to do a special model each year. Pick a special steel and then release it in a discontinued model for an entire year. No 300 limit where it's hard to get and secondary flipping gets crazy. Just make as many as you can sell for a year. When the year is up do a different steel/model. It would be great to have the 690 available again for a whole year with titanium/timascus handles and s90v blade steel. Or the 635 with that stamped titanium handles and a carpenter steel. Making a bunch of them would get the steel in more peoples hands and let newer fans get in on some of the older models. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by GMArthur:
My take on this would be to do a special model each year. Pick a special steel and then release it in a discontinued model for an entire year. No 300 limit where it's hard to get and secondary flipping gets crazy. Just make as many as you can sell for a year. When the year is up do a different steel/model. It would be great to have the 690 available again for a whole year with titanium/timascus handles and s90v blade steel. Or the 635 with that stamped titanium handles and a carpenter steel. Making a bunch of them would get the steel in more peoples hands and let newer fans get in on some of the older models.
I like this idea! As long as they release the mini-AFCK in a left-handed version again like in 2000, with Elmax or CTS-XHP.0 -
Mini-AFCK
Any uncoated blade would be fine.0 -
quote:Originally posted by GMArthur:
Pick a special steel and then release it in a discontinued model for an entire year.
How about a mini-Ruckus in Carpenter steel, and then a mini-Ruckus in S390v?
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5160 for that new Bushcrafter knife, the 172, or a larger knife. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Vance:
We've nailed down our processes for M390 and have no plans to drop it. It's a great knife steel.
Excellent! Thanks for the info.
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Yes...that's huge!quote:Originally posted by APBT:quote:Originally posted by Vance:
We've nailed down our processes for M390 and have no plans to drop it. It's a great knife steel.
Excellent! Thanks for the info.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Lord Jim:quote:Originally posted by GMArthur:
Pick a special steel and then release it in a discontinued model for an entire year.
How about a mini-Ruckus in Carpenter steel, and then a mini-Ruckus in S390v?
I like the way you guys are thinking. How about a 615 in full Damascus...or Timascus?...I wouldnt be able to afford it of coarse.
Hey, where can we go to discuss grinds?
How about a fixed w/ a convex.0 -
Vance, thank you for answering my question. It is gratifying to hear that you have all your problems sorted out with regard to M390. At first I was concerned that we had seen the last of the knives made with this steel coming from BM.
May be the opening of the new subforums has helped to create this impression, but I sense a general feeling of enthusiasm, pride and confidence within BM this year, driven by the willingness to interact more openly with their customers. Although the models in this year's catalog are not too inspiring I am confident that we will see fruits of the new approach down the road in future.
I would say looking back people will agree that the opening of the new subforums is a key milestone in the history of BM.0 -
quote:Vance, thank you for answering my question.
quote:I would say looking back people will agree that the opening of the new subforums is a key milestone in the history of BM.
Its nice I must say that hearing answers from the Horses mouth "so to speak" is great.
As for being a part of the Forum ...... this is good too
However now I have to watch what I say ........LOL0 -
I'd love to see some 6K or similar Cobalt alloy. 0 -
First, thank you for making this thread to solicit blade steel ideas from users. If Benchmade wants to remain competitive with other knife manufacturers, it should consider developing LE's and gold class knives made of the following steels:
(1) S90V - Posters here are in consensus regarding this steel for a reason. Although it will eat up your machines, it is the most affordable and best performing "highest of the high-end" steel currently on the market (work that heat treat hard, gents);
(2) Uncoated CPM-M4 - The new heat treat on Benchmade's CPM-M4 and higher hardness is absolutely amazing. Keep up the great work, but please start offering selections without blade coatings!
(3) M390 - If you guys have M390 nailed, there is little need for ELMAX or Carpenter, imo;
(4) CPM-154 - Consider replacing CM154 with a properly heat treated CPM-154. This is a huge proposition, but will yield huge gains in performance for BM's blue/black class.
(5) BLADE GRINDS - Honestly, the best thing Benchmade could do is to start offering flatter blade grinds for better slicing.
(6) CPM 3V - ...For all heavy-use fixed blades and Bushcrafters. Expensive but top of the line!0 -
quote:Originally posted by oakengroves:
First, thank you for making this thread to solicit blade steel ideas from users. If Benchmade wants to remain competitive with other knife manufacturers, it should consider developing LE's and gold class knives made of the following steels:
(1) S90V - Posters here are in consensus regarding this steel for a reason. Although it will eat up your machines, it is the most affordable and best performing "highest of the high-end" steel currently on the market (work that heat treat hard, gents);
(2) Uncoated CPM-M4 - The new heat treat on Benchmade's CPM-M4 and higher hardness is absolutely amazing. Keep up the great work, but please start offering selections without blade coatings!
(3) M390 - If you guys have M390 nailed, there is little need for ELMAX or Carpenter, imo;
(4) CPM-154 - Consider replacing CM154 with a properly heat treated CPM-154. This is a huge proposition, but will yield huge gains in performance for BM's blue/black class.
(5) BLADE GRINDS - Honestly, the best thing Benchmade could do is to start offering flatter blade grinds for better slicing.
(6) CPM 3V - ...For all heavy-use fixed blades and Bushcrafters. Expensive but top of the line!
I LIKE WHAT HE JUST SAID !!0 -
That was a great post. I agree with all points.quote:Originally posted by oakengroves:
First, thank you for making this thread to solicit blade steel ideas from users. If Benchmade wants to remain competitive with other knife manufacturers, it should consider developing LE's and gold class knives made of the following steels:
(1) S90V - Posters here are in consensus regarding this steel for a reason. Although it will eat up your machines, it is the most affordable and best performing "highest of the high-end" steel currently on the market (work that heat treat hard, gents);
(2) Uncoated CPM-M4 - The new heat treat on Benchmade's CPM-M4 and higher hardness is absolutely amazing. Keep up the great work, but please start offering selections without blade coatings!
(3) M390 - If you guys have M390 nailed, there is little need for ELMAX or Carpenter, imo;
(4) CPM-154 - Consider replacing CM154 with a properly heat treated CPM-154. This is a huge proposition, but will yield huge gains in performance for BM's blue/black class.
(5) BLADE GRINDS - Honestly, the best thing Benchmade could do is to start offering flatter blade grinds for better slicing.
(6) CPM 3V - ...For all heavy-use fixed blades and Bushcrafters. Expensive but top of the line!0 -
Hard Chromed 3V & or CTS-XHP on a 520 I'd take also 0 -
quote:Originally posted by oakengroves:
First, thank you for making this thread to solicit blade steel ideas from users. If Benchmade wants to remain competitive with other knife manufacturers, it should consider developing LE's and gold class knives made of the following steels:
(1) S90V - Posters here are in consensus regarding this steel for a reason. Although it will eat up your machines, it is the most affordable and best performing "highest of the high-end" steel currently on the market (work that heat treat hard, gents);
(2) Uncoated CPM-M4 - The new heat treat on Benchmade's CPM-M4 and higher hardness is absolutely amazing. Keep up the great work, but please start offering selections without blade coatings!
(3) M390 - If you guys have M390 nailed, there is little need for ELMAX or Carpenter, imo;
(4) CPM-154 - Consider replacing CM154 with a properly heat treated CPM-154. This is a huge proposition, but will yield huge gains in performance for BM's blue/black class.
(5) BLADE GRINDS - Honestly, the best thing Benchmade could do is to start offering flatter blade grinds for better slicing.
(6) CPM 3V - ...For all heavy-use fixed blades and Bushcrafters. Expensive but top of the line!
I echo all of the above especially no. (5). Thinner grinds will definitely make the knives better slicers and reduce the time required for sharpening.0 -
From what i have heard M390 is extremely good in all categorys of rating for a blade as well as the time tested classic, 440C. Are the steels as S110V or SM-100 and all kinds of other exotic or new steels, are they a LOT better than M390 or 440C? Or is it when your at the top it is coming down to splitting hairs?
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Look what just showed up in the lab!
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Cool!
I can't wait to see what it turns into!0 -
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Sweet! 10v eh? 
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Very nice!
Christmas came late this year.0 -
I am not familiar with all these steels, can someone give a very brief 101 course on them? Thanks! 0 -
Very Nice ........I just wet myself .......LOL
However this is just for testing ?? will any of these be made into something special ??
Like say a 740 LE
I,d buy it no matter what you used it for though.0 -
How long till these get ground into blades and heat treated.
*checks watch*0 -
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