Wilkins grip centering issue
HELP! I for the life of me cannot get this thing centered. I've tried loosening all the screws and applying pressures on one side or the other. I've disassembled it a few times. And every time it goes back to favoring the non clip side ( RH carry) looking 75/25... its driving me nuts. I hate a blade that isn't centered. Especially this bad! Any ideas/tricks that I haven't mentioned? Thanks everyone.
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quote:Originally posted by A-love05:
I've tried loosening all the screws
"All" of the screws?
Even the clip screws?
I would also try tightening the screws in a different sequence/order.
Try to find a screw that you can tighten without losing good alignment.
Here's my procedure for blade centering. although, it sounds like you have already tried this.
"With the knife closed. I would loosen all the screws including the clip screws
Now snug down on the pivot. Not real tight, just hand tight.
I then gently, but firmly, apply pressure to each side of the knife in opposite directions.
Left side up/right side down or Left side down/right side up; while at the same time seeing what combination gives you the desired results.
While holding the right effect, start tightening screws. If the tightening of one particular screw ruins the effect. Tighten this problem screw last.
Once all screws are tight, adjust pivot."0 -
Or maybe I should have just gotten a set of keyman scales!! ( Which are in the near future!)
Thanks keyman. I will give it another attempt following your procedure and finding the screw that won't affect the centering. You're the man!0 -
Well after another couple attempts with no success I put the knife in its drawer and pulled out my Ritter with putman scales that's PERFECTLY centered..
Anyone wanna trade a centered Wilkins Ritter for an off centered Wilkins Ritter?? Don't all be jumping at once!0 -
Is this a mini or a full size?
Was the blade centered when it was in the factory scales?
Have you tried switching the pivot post from one side of the knife to the other?0 -
Full size. I'm not sure I bought it on the exchange and it came with a set of cuscadi scales.. but it was centered in those.. I did try switching the pivot and it didn't work . This ones got me stumped.. I think I'm going to put the Ritter on one of my REI handles anyways.. MFL did it and it looks great. 0 -
Ritter + REI scales = Winner! 0 -
I have had 1 set of Wilkins scales that had a problem, not centering though.
Loosen all screws, including backspacer. Snug them up, but still loose. Leave the main pivot screw completely loose. Fold up some paper to make wedge/shim. Shim the blade all the way over to the side you want to move it to. Tighten scale screws on the paper side, then the back spacer, then the side the blade is on. Snug up the pivot screw, remove the paper and see what happens. If needed loosen pivot back, replace the paper, and try again. Sometimes I over tighten the pivot, remove the paper, then loosen pivot to get action just right.
I also try swapping left/right washers.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Geocyclist:
I have had 1 set of Wilkins scales that had a problem, not centering though.
Loosen all screws, including backspacer. Snug them up, but still loose. Leave the main pivot screw completely loose. Fold up some paper to make wedge/shim. Shim the blade all the way over to the side you want to move it to. Tighten scale screws on the paper side, then the back spacer, then the side the blade is on. Snug up the pivot screw, remove the paper and see what happens. If needed loosen pivot back, replace the paper, and try again. Sometimes I over tighten the pivot, remove the paper, then loosen pivot to get action just right.
I also try swapping left/right washers.
According to Jason in BKC, we shouldn't loosen screws for centering issue. Try with that. It worked for me.0 -
The last three. grips i've purchased have all been off centered. I usually find a balance with different washers, tightening, loosening...
My REI Grip went back to BM for centering and blade play, and it came back the same...I think there's a lot of tolerance issues with the Axis and Grips in particular.0 -
...can't help to wonder... if a blade doesn't naturally center with with clean parts and proper torque of screws, aren't you skewing and stressing/forcing parts into abnormal alignment? Seems this would result in accelerated wear during use. (opening/closing/cutting).
I occasionally see this in my workplace - electric motors stressed into (non)alignment resulting in premature bearing failures.0 -
I guess I've been lucky. No uncentered Grips.quote:Originally posted by Geocyclist:
I have had 1 set of Wilkins scales that had a problem, not centering though.
Loosen all screws, including backspacer. Snug them up, but still loose. Leave the main pivot screw completely loose. Fold up some paper to make wedge/shim. Shim the blade all the way over to the side you want to move it to. Tighten scale screws on the paper side, then the back spacer, then the side the blade is on. Snug up the pivot screw, remove the paper and see what happens. If needed loosen pivot back, replace the paper, and try again. Sometimes I over tighten the pivot, remove the paper, then loosen pivot to get action just right.
I also try swapping left/right washers.
I do occasionally run into regular axis knives with uncentering issues. I have used the paper shim idea you mentioned above, but you suggested one twist on it that I will use next time. I have always just wedged the blade to the center, but I like your suggestion to actually wedge it over even more. I'll try that next time I get a nasty one.0 -
Thanks for the tips guys. I will try it and report back. Although, my REI Ritter has totally taken over all pocket time.. 0 -
Well, it looks like it might have adjusted over a bit but not much at all.. will BKC give a knife with custom scales a 'spa' treatment? I'm guessing I'll have to pay?? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by A-love05:
Well, it looks like it might have adjusted over a bit but not much at all.. will BKC give a knife with custom scales a 'spa' treatment? I'm guessing I'll have to pay??
Well, you can send in your knife to BKC as life sharp process. They usually takes care of details. If you are concerned about blade centering, make a note in request and I'm sure it would be addressed.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mobile Firelord:quote:Originally posted by Geocyclist:
I have had 1 set of Wilkins scales that had a problem, not centering though.
Loosen all screws, including backspacer. Snug them up, but still loose. Leave the main pivot screw completely loose. Fold up some paper to make wedge/shim. Shim the blade all the way over to the side you want to move it to. Tighten scale screws on the paper side, then the back spacer, then the side the blade is on. Snug up the pivot screw, remove the paper and see what happens. If needed loosen pivot back, replace the paper, and try again. Sometimes I over tighten the pivot, remove the paper, then loosen pivot to get action just right.
I also try swapping left/right washers.
According to Jason in BKC, we shouldn't loosen screws for centering issue. Try with that. It worked for me.
What was Jason's advice? (I must of missed this). Does it mean don't loosen any screw, or just loosen the pivot?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Geocyclist:quote:Originally posted by Mobile Firelord:quote:Originally posted by Geocyclist:
I have had 1 set of Wilkins scales that had a problem, not centering though.
Loosen all screws, including backspacer. Snug them up, but still loose. Leave the main pivot screw completely loose. Fold up some paper to make wedge/shim. Shim the blade all the way over to the side you want to move it to. Tighten scale screws on the paper side, then the back spacer, then the side the blade is on. Snug up the pivot screw, remove the paper and see what happens. If needed loosen pivot back, replace the paper, and try again. Sometimes I over tighten the pivot, remove the paper, then loosen pivot to get action just right.
I also try swapping left/right washers.
According to Jason in BKC, we shouldn't loosen screws for centering issue. Try with that. It worked for me.
What was Jason's advice? (I must of missed this). Does it mean don't loosen any screw, or just loosen the pivot?
Jason had advised "NOT to loosen any screw, and it would be counter productive".0
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